well jorel i dont care about u and ur words... And i dont want listen ppl who dunno and talk shit. (hate that kind of ppl). i have my opinion. wht about red... he rly got caught 1 time... other topics without proofs... well if u wanna ban red then ban all ex-hackers... as i can see in the cheater list there are a lot ppl (Potcha, DamieN, d2n, sydney and etc...) I think we dont need to talk about his past... He got caught 3 years ago. And that 3 years he played without shit and still playing... He didnt change his name or ip like some ex-hackers. Now we are talking about that demo and wht dan=red ROFL! Demo is clear and dan is not red... Just lock it. We dont need his past here.