My opinion only....
1st off, I believe there are people on that list that don't hack nor have ever hacked in multiplayer. Papa, stop are 2 that come to mind. I believe they are clean personally. I dissagree with them being removed from UE, BUTTT....thats PO's decision and I understand completely. Any *pWp* that would have shown or do at a later date will be removed as well. I know...it kinda seems like im going back and forth huh? Well, heres how it will work/effect pwp. The banlist/drop list is easially argueed becasue just having a hack command in your cfg will show as a drop. It dosent say you ARE hacking or have even hacked in the past....it shows that you may just have a command in your cfg causing you to drop.
The main problem is weeding out the truth from the lies. If 1 person is allowed to continue in a clan becasue ppl believe their story that it was just a cfg they got from someone and thats why they drop/dropped....then we have to believe everyone. There is only 1 way to be fair....ban everyone on the list. There is no way to determine who is being honest and who isnt. People like Axel stood up and said "Ya, I hacked". Thats respectful and a honest thing to do. It's just unfair to treat people different due to personal reasons. Mav made it very clear that you MUST have a clean version of quake that never had hacks installed to use 144....now some complain that they didnt know. I will post a sticky about that soon so we are all on the same page.
A few things to keep inmind. *pWp* servers will ALWAYS be updated with the newest server mod mav has posted thanks to jinx. If you are NOT SURE if your quake is clean, then you need to make sure ASAP.BEFORE going to any *pWp* server. If you drop, you will be removed and banned. No exceptions. Searching for "wall" in your cfg should be the 1st thing you do. If you have ANY hack commands, you will drop.
Also, some have offered me their cfg's from time to time. They have noticed im sure, that I dont accept them....why take the chance? Im not saying they hack, but if you see something in a cfg you like, post a question and let them answer. Then add/change it yourself. Why take the chance?
As I said before, we will be going NG only in a little over 2 weeks. Mavs program was made not to hurt the community, but to help it. I am still thinking if I am changing bootcamp over though, there seems to be alot of demo/nemesis players who go there. We do need atleast 1 outlet for those players to help inform them on how NG works and how to get it. But, Zone will be changing over on the 16th. TDP is already set that way.
Lastly, if you see someones name on the list, please dont assume they are a hacker. It has been found that quite a few people had name/tag stealers that are on there. I am open to check any logs on an IP if you ask, to make sure.
To anyone with ref at zone, please ban anyone you believe is on the list for 10 games on the spot, and then take the time to confirm their IP. If it is indeed them, then -1. This banlist WILL be used to check ANY current *pWp* members all the way down to any applicant.
The only way to be fair, it dealing with everything on the same level.
-T@D-