Nicked/Axel

First topic message reminder :

Nicked posted a topic about Reddead on pWp (and other sites), whilst Axel posted the same topic on H$ copied from the original post. Now from what I know, Axel hasn't been active in railfreeze in months, although he is on xfire occasionally. So why would he post on H$? Or even care? Nicked has an account on H$, so why didn't he log in and post it? I'm sure he will reply with some reasoning behind why he logged in as Axel and not Nicked, but he finally slipped up. Hooray!

http://www.pwpclan.org/caught-cheaters-f24/reddead-t7289.htm

http://hsclan.namepad.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=4148

sex?

virtuosity wrote:why don't you just get a picture for evidence lol.

Nah trust me LOL

Well Tad I know what you mean, I defended ALOT to Axel and Nicked, but besides the password shit, something more made me change my mind...

I was specting to Nicked in Pills servers with a fake nick, I was randomly following, And In that moment I don't remember why but I started to talk with Axel at xfire... But casually ALL the times while I spected to Nicked and Axel had to answer something, Nicked stopped playing, ALL THE TIMES, Not only that, All the times when Axel didn't answer Nicked played and it happened alot of times, finally when I started to make the convo more interesting just to get some kind of proof about it, Axel logged off, I think Nicked left the server as well... I took some screenshots with xfire but I couldn't get a nice one to prove it.

Then 1 month after that accident, I got that proof about them sharing THE SAME password in all the forums, they changed his password but less in one site that tog backup or delated, im not sure about it . But just for confirm this info, I need to wait for Merky, class, lebron or tog to reply.

Theories
1.Axel, Nicked maybe both of them exist, But maybe they used the nick of each other just to get fun and read clan stuff, that's the reason why we kicked nicked from .eRa

2. Nicked or Axel, ONLY one of them really does exist. When Nicked or Axel plays at the same time, one of them change his style and I've spected them playing together, it isn't the same or one of them don't talk or talk really different, and not only that, one of them play in an average player, not like the experience that they are suppose to have but I've heard they talk at the same time in teamspeak, for me it is easy still to fake, asking to some friend to do it.

When Axel wanted to join its , Nicked never did agree with let him join its kinda weird, why? The idea of make him to get denied to joinning its was to avoid or suprime/elimite doubts about them being the same person.


Axel and Nicked are really oppositive betweem them, boths of them talks/play like in antonymous persons
With Rail/Shotgun only/Using caps to talk = 1
MIDLE = 2
Using all the weapons,random grammar style =3

The number 1 is Axel
Number 2 is a person combinating the number 1 and 3 in different times
Number 3 is Nicked

it looks like the way how they act, is to elimate doubts about them being the same person . but about one thing i'm sure they/he have/has been playing with their/his nicks. Come on is it normal to share passwords? LOL

JoReL wrote:
Theories
1.Axel, Nicked maybe both of them exist, But maybe they used the nick of each other just to get fun and read clan stuff, that's the reason why we kicked nicked from .eRa

I completely agree that this is as close to a fact as it can get.... in my opinion.

I "know" axel saw pwp members section while nicked was in pwp. So I agree with this being a true "theory"...

T@D wrote:

JoReL wrote:
Theories
1.Axel, Nicked maybe both of them exist, But maybe they used the nick of each other just to get fun and read clan stuff, that's the reason why we kicked nicked from .eRa

I completely agree that this is as close to a fact as it can get.... in my opinion.

I "know" axel saw pwp members section while nicked was in pwp. So I agree with this being a true "theory"...

Well but which is true, They/he have/has been lying us.

Yes Tad, I thought like you, but until I found out how Axel chatting with me, Using his CAPS, while in the other side Nicked Stopped playing while I chatted with Axel and just to add something more, It was Nicked style, He used and mixed all the weapons, Axel style is shotgun, rail, rarely rocket launcher.

But I just thought better, And got a new theory.considering other facts

I think Nicked does exist and is actually the one active. Axel used to play but in RAW times, He quitted quake 3, but He lied saying Axel still played. He wanted try to be in 2 clans, Have double chance to scrim, and He wanted to test hacks for blame his cousin, and say he was clean.

I know Nicked since he was in WWR, While i was in [RIP], Axel never appeared, So What i'm sure if they are 2 persons or only one in this game, Nicked is the principal one faking everything here.

eh... I never heard that theory. So you are saying Nicked and Axel, at one time, were playing as 2 different people. Then Axel quit quake and Nicked kept using Axel's name....

That's plausible and possible. I never thought of it that way.

I know for a fact at one time that they were 2 different people playing.... but maybe you are on to something...

hmm

Ohh and the last weird thing is about what tool posted, it just proved more that Nicked is usurping Axel's nick.

The password stuff is all true, I noticed this long before telling anybody.
When I first realized that, I went to Xfire on the same day, opened a chat convo with Axel and waited for him to sign off, the first time he signed off, ~3 seconds later Nicked logged on, I asked Nicked at this point if him and Axel share computers, because he logged off then Axel instantly logged on, Nicked said yes him and Axel share computers, at this point I added to the theory (that was only in my mind, nowhere else) that nicked and Axel are the same person. Unless within that time they acquired another PC in their household, or one of them have moved out, how can they be playing together? Are you forgetting that Obese lives right next to them? He has been inactive for about 1-2 years.

Yep I had a theory with Obese but I didn't mention it because I didn't know his nick until now that you mentioned it.

hey i didnt come here for a long time just found out that..

if i can say some things i saw here:

yes axel and me used same passwords... we didnt change it to avoid ppls thinking we are same.. we changed it because pronstar hacked us and we didnt want him to read our stuffs and thats it.

yes, we saw all the private section of the other clan... it's not like something was really bad in this.. can i recall naruto watching eRa private section when he was in qOs? did jorel was kick because of that? no.. for sure eRa always beed ''defending'' jorel and naruto... righ woOw or w/e?

obese... is in ontario for 1-2 years now.. he is studying/learning stuffs to get in ''Canadian'' army... his parents pushed him out of his home so he didn't have a computer back then.. and we didnt have 2 pcs back then too (axel and me)

about that pill theory.. u told me this once.. and i just lol'ed

about that xfire stuff.. we been on xfire several times together in same time, we been playing together, we been posting pics of us in ours lifes.. AND together in same pic at my house playing Wii

anyways.. i think this topic wont really geting resolved.. if u wanna come to Quebec and meet both of us.. i got np with that

pz

JoReL wrote:

2. Nicked or Axel, ONLY one of them really does exist. When Nicked or Axel plays at the same time, one of them change his style and I've spected them playing together, it isn't the same or one of them don't talk or talk really different, and not only that, one of them play in an average player, not like the experience that they are suppose to have but I've heard they talk at the same time in teamspeak, for me it is easy still to fake, asking to some friend to do it.

When Axel wanted to join its , Nicked never did agree with let him join its kinda weird, why? The idea of make him to get denied to joinning its was to avoid or suprime/elimite doubts about them being the same person.


Axel and Nicked are really oppositive betweem them, boths of them talks/play like in antonymous persons
With Rail/Shotgun only/Using caps to talk = 1
MIDLE = 2
Using all the weapons,random grammar style =3

The number 1 is Axel
Number 2 is a person combinating the number 1 and 3 in different times
Number 3 is Nicked

it looks like the way how they act, is to elimate doubts about them being the same person . but about one thing i'm sure they/he have/has been playing with their/his nicks. Come on is it normal to share passwords? LOL

Does anybody else think this completely ridiculous? You're saying there's only one person, acting out two opposing personalities, playing the same match with two different styles... how exactly? Is he playing with his feet as well? Maybe he's schizophrenic and his autism immerses him in the game so much that he can play twice!

Now, now, wouldn't it be easier if they were, say, cousins, and they didn't really care if one used the other's nicknames? Rationally they are just gamertags, who cares? I know I wouldn't care if it was my brother playing, in fact sometimes he would play a match or two in public servers with my name back in the day. If he were to actually enjoy it and play regularly I would feel ridiculous asking him to change names so the faceless strangers on the internet don't think it's me.

Maybe we are just making a storm out of glass of water.

As a side note, I don't care for any proof that comes from acquiring someone else's password without their consent. It's like raping someone and then turning them over to the cops because they had some weed in their pocket. Fuck you.

Sometimes police take phone records without consent, they also use various other methods without consent to generate a higher percentage of success rate.

Merky wrote:Sometimes police take phone records without consent, they also use various other methods without consent to generate a higher percentage of success rate.

Porns analogy as more along the correct lines in this situation.

To tap a phone, you still need "consent".... Not from the person committing a crime maybe, but it's not some rogue person who takes it upon themselves to tap everyones phone in a city and notices something.

You didn't use the hash scripts to catch Nicked/Axel.... you used it for everyone on the H$ site to gain passwords to access site areas/xfires/what ever.

Huge difference.

T@D wrote:

Merky wrote:Sometimes police take phone records without consent, they also use various other methods without consent to generate a higher percentage of success rate.

Porns analogy as more along the correct lines in this situation.

To tap a phone, you still need "consent".... Not from the person committing a crime maybe, but it's not some rogue person who takes it upon themselves to tap everyones phone in a city and notices something.

You didn't use the hash scripts to catch Nicked/Axel.... you used it for everyone on the H$ site to gain passwords to access site areas/xfires/what ever.

Huge difference.

Some ISP's log 30% of packets to and from servers/clients, and some of those packets also get flagged for certain things. Technically, it's a similar story. Seeing as I acquired much less than 30%.

No point making me out to be a terrorist, like you don't know who the terror is, insulting my intelligence, oh how these people judge.

I'm all about peace and love.

and cold hard cash

IF

rush wrote:and cold hard cash

is Merky;
then;
Merky disappears;
else Merky stays around on Noghost clan forums;

lol VB talk :p

I'm late but...how does this end exactly? Are they the same or what? >.<

Not something you should worry your brain on lmao

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