Dc/Harsh --- Life. Vm

Kk, if anyone says this guys uses sound to tell where his enemies are and crap I will rape your mother's ear. 2 prime examples of him being able to tell where I am is both times with me behind a wall with gaunt. Once (acid is specing yung but you can see harsh in the corner waitin looking at the wall im behind in upp hallway in quad). 2nd gaunt is right after that one.. and 3rd gaunt is in yellow. Alot of other shots that aren't makeable with no sound and knowing where to find the enemy in what location. Impossible to know.


Edit --

lol forgot the demo

http://era.noghost.net/html/files/dC.dm3

I think its very suspicious. The shot u talking about in upper hall while u have guant can be explained by be4 he spwans u can see u heading for there so thats not completely suspicious but it is kind of wierd. What makes it more suspicuous is how he always knows where people are even tho there is no reporting of enemys going on.

At 14:14 around there reck is in yellow bounce and life cant see him normally but stills knows the exact path of reck falling off off of the top which is wierd and shoots him in the air right when he comes into sight. Very suspicious

I dont know if anyone else sees this but it seems like he is kind of hiding it. He"hears" people all the time then he will run into rted acting like he didnt know you were there even tho you can hear the spawn clearly and then he turn right away everytime 1 shot and ur dead. Seems wierd to me idk about u.

Haha Sweet


Heres my config::

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bind F "say ^6/^7lollll^6."
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bind m "say_team Yes sir!"
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You can watch it with or without shownormals
many of the positions I was in you can't even see the enemy with shownormals
It's probably the cleanest demo of myself ever


I think the only thing left to say is
don't judge me by the way I've acted against you or certain people in the past
(like pWp*T@d) people change I know I have.
Just watch the demo make a decision

=]

*b|K* wrote:
I dont know if anyone else sees this but it seems like he is kind of hiding it. He"hears" people all the time then he will run into rted acting like he didnt know you were there even tho you can hear the spawn clearly and then he turn right away everytime 1 shot and ur dead. Seems wierd to me idk about u.

lols easily explained, I listen to music as I play as dC
because it's just a club not a clan I don't take the scrims as
serious as when I'm playing with vM tags

needs times on it but alot seems down 2 sound and his headphones https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o75PytzWgM8
and anyway 1/2 the demo seems 2 b of the other guy some shots r strange but nuffin wat saw 100percent hacks needs more demos

as you can see on my youtube movie
Nice headphones and wicked shots =]

Code:

clean

lol well, whatever all i saw was no sound, etc.. it's not my decision it's everyone as a community, if it's a no. It's a no you're not hacking. Doesn't matter to me what happens.

well of course theres not gona be any sound when I can see you with my naked eyes >

If everyone says No, the that just means 1 of two things.

1. They are right and he doesnt hack.

and

2. They are morons and cant seem to see whats right in front of their faces.



Like in your case Anni, get more demos and screenys. Everyone at least deserves that much.

well i lol'd when i saw this topic. reck with all do respect, this guy is damn clean. i've seen him play in scrims AND i've played against him, notonce have i seen him really camp corners or make 'hack shots'. I've hacked before, i mean i know what it looks like..you don't know whwat one looks like less you've used one....and i have. I hope you'd trust me on this 1 reck and relize that he doesnt hack. he has a youtube video up aswell and you can see the reflection of his comp. monitor he is wearing some pretty decent headphones.

Since i've gotten better some people have told me i hacked hell i got a 70 acc against vT the other night...and got called a hacker by syKo, and with that as an experience of 'wow people think i cheat but i FUCKING DONT!' and your like the ONLY person that knows you don't cheat. From talking with l1fe/harsh i can tell he feels that way. So i don't even have to review this demo, i will at some point wen i get back on my other computer but for now i'm giving my opinion from playing in the past with him ( past as in yesterday and numerous times before that ) CLEAN

It probably wont mean much if I say he is clean, me being the leader of the clan hes in and all. However, I even watched the demo and I have no suspicions of him. Having seen his youtube video also, his headphones are insane. I've been friends with him for a while now and I cant imagine him cheating. vM is pretty much just about having fun as a group/family, and winning comes second. Theres no reason for him to hack, then again theres no reason for anyone to hack, its a freaknn game -.- Whatever. Imma stop rambling.

Hes clean IMO, if that matters at all

yes!!! close topic!!!
if want WATCH again the DEMo CAREFULLY!

well in my opinion he is CLEAN and also pron is the expert in this so......
CLEAN(BIS)

Doesn't matter what headphones you got so get that out of your head guys it does not whatsoever make a lick of difference in what you can actually hear in quake. And might I had he is a ex-hacker if not current?

actually i agree with reck i have MDR XD400 Sony Headphones, i had some profesional dj headphones b4 and i broke them long story.. so i bought these sony and for me is exactly the same, also sometimes i use some shitty LG headphones when i use my laptop instead of desktop and same thing..

dj headphones= 600 bucks
sony headphones=100 bucks
lg = 20 bucks

all the same

i know this is off topic but wanted to give my opinion about headphones i havent watched this demo and i dont plan on doin, i preffer to stay out of this 1 due to conflict of interest.

lol reck, i'm half way agreeing and half way not. i never used headphones often, i started and all that happened is corner shots got better and i was able to hear behind me easier. i stopped using them and i'm actually begining to do better. its all in the person.

play cs:s or games like that and yes, headphones matter. theres a differance between 2.1 sony headphones i bought from walmart or 50-75$ turtle beach headphones i buy off tigerdirect.


but in quake 3 i mean...really with enemy models at keel/tankjr lol its pretty impossible for you NOT to hear an enemy unless your not using sound of course.
I'll look this demo over now i got my internet back up.

lmfao i reviewed the first 30 seconds and i thought that that demo was absolutley 100% ridiculousa nd worth 30 seconds of my short life.


about 20 seconds into it, with shownormals and with FOV AT 90 i could see an enemy in BH, from what i know he uses fov at like 190 or some shit, he would have EASILY seen that enemy in bh.


and about 10 seconds in, at RA he didnt know there was an enemy in the lower-upper hall w/e going to red armor, he was surprised and i could tell when he was strafing over the lava


wow this is the most clean demo i've seen lmfao.

Headphones for quake no matter what the price, really do not make a difference. At all.

that was my point reck, go play AAO with a sucky headset u r fucked up lol

Stupid arguement. Who gives a shit if he has good or bad, or no headsets at all. I used to have just plain ole speakers and i could still hear clear across maps.

If YOU CAN hear it, doesnt mean he can.

LoL.....


hArsh posting ur Cfg prooves nothing , called Editing.


But its not enough solid evidence.

Reckoning wrote:Headphones for quake no matter what the price, really do not make a difference. At all.

If thats the case how about you turn off your sound?
then lets see how well you do.

Sound is everything, but in my case
Skill is what is seen in this demo.

Ma$on wrote:LoL.....


hArsh posting ur Cfg prooves nothing , called Editing.


But its not enough solid evidence.

I post my config so people can watch the demo with it.

just watch the demo -_-
it's pretty clear

You're not getting what I am saying. I said headphones for quake are just headphones there isn't a quality and there is no price. Every headphones gives out the same sound no matter what. Quality of the sound may be different but the sounds -- no different and you can't hear anymore than what another headphone can hear. I play with sound also m8. But like I said my 15$ headphones are no different than my 400$ headphones (for quake) .

Reckoning wrote:You're not getting what I am saying. I said headphones for quake are just headphones there isn't a quality and there is no price. Every headphones gives out the same sound no matter what. Quality of the sound may be different but the sounds -- no different and you can't hear anymore than what another headphone can hear. I play with sound also m8. But like I said my 15$ headphones are no different than my 400$ headphones (for quake) .

well if there were 400$ headphones then yes there is a differance. anyway..take iPod headphones compare them to these eDimensional 5.1 headphones http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3261744&Sku=E128-1020

theres going to be a differnace in the sound quality and the direction of sound. if somebody is all the way in quad and i'm in RL or BH i could easily hear them with those eDimensional headphones...if i was using iPod headphones though, there would be absolutley no way to hear it evne with your volume up as loud as it could go there wouldbe no way.

so reck, you are wrong there...it really depends on 1. How good the person playing's hearing is. 2. What quality heaphones you are using ( or sound system ). Its all about the person too, i mean some people that play well don't have good hearing ( genetics, or just old age / bad hearing from working in places with loud noises ). Then theres people that are young, 13-18 that have really good hearing and havent been affected by those kinds of things that can hear much better than some.

Jesus, why dont you just make a Seperate topic in the appropriate Section about Headphones.... tihs is redonkulous.