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1[a]0xyc0done/Cord....... - Page 6 Empty [a]0xyc0done/Cord....... Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:38 pm

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First topic message reminder :

I was sent this a bit ago. Typically non-regular demos are too hard to judge and look subjective... This looks 100% to be a hack. WH only, no auto... obviously...



tyvm kalmikaze for the link.

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126[a]0xyc0done/Cord....... - Page 6 Empty Re: [a]0xyc0done/Cord....... Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:28 pm

p1x3L


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I'd better post what I have now before this topic gets locked. Razz

Just like there can be arguments that he is wall hacking, there can be arguments that he isn't wall hacking.

Here are some things to take into consideration:

9:55 He hears an enemy in rl while in yl and proceeds to camp the area in which he heard the enemy even though with a wall hack, he would have known that the guy had run away.

11:00 (one of the shots from the xfire video) He knows there's an enemy there, camps the corner and prefires to a jump.

14:22 (one of the shots from the xfire video) Reaction to spawn sound in dungeon, so of course he aims his crosshair towards the place where the enemy would most likely go.

15:37 (one of the shots from the xfire video) More of a reflex shot if anything; he sees an enemy, predicts where he will go next and shoots... too bad there's a wall in the way. Razz

16:02 After the enemy appears in the crack, it takes him about half a second to shoot; if he had a wallhack I'd imagine he would have shot a lot sooner.

16:06 You can obviously hear a person in yl. Aim at where they most likely will be: the frozen body.

16:36 He's in dungeon camping and when it appears (without a wall hack) that the enemy has run away, he gives up EVEN THOUGH with a wall hack he would have seen that an enemy was still there.

17:40 What kind of failed wall hack is that? If he was indeed wall hacking, he would have easily been able to shoot the guy and get the point.

18:09 Aims at the melts instead of the enemy in quad. He obviously hears the enemy though, so it shows more that he's predicting where the enemy would be rather than actually knowing.

19:46 Hears an enemy, aims at the crack, almost gives up because he might have thought that the enemy had gone away, but then the enemy jumps and he reacts.

21:38 Hears the enemy, takes a peak, sees him and shoots on reflex.

Have any of you guys ever watched a demo of yourself with shownormals on? If you guys consider this hacking, then I'm never posting any of my demos again and praying to God I never get demoed. Razz

127[a]0xyc0done/Cord....... - Page 6 Empty Re: [a]0xyc0done/Cord....... Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:29 pm

T@D

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Keep the posts on the demo please.

Yes hes already banned... but being part of the community... we all deserve to know if a clan is being lead by someone suspicious or not...

http://www.pwpclan.org

128[a]0xyc0done/Cord....... - Page 6 Empty Re: [a]0xyc0done/Cord....... Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:31 pm

p1x3L

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Oh, and if this topic doesn't get locked before I have a chance to make my next post, I'll probably update my previous post with more times since those times were only after one run through.

129[a]0xyc0done/Cord....... - Page 6 Empty Re: [a]0xyc0done/Cord....... Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:32 pm

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p1x3L wrote:
I'd better post what I have now before this topic gets locked. Razz

Just like there can be arguments that he is wall hacking, there can be arguments that he isn't wall hacking.

Here are some things to take into consideration:

9:55 He hears an enemy in rl while in yl and proceeds to camp the area in which he heard the enemy even though with a wall hack, he would have known that the guy had run away.

11:00 (one of the shots from the xfire video) He knows there's an enemy there, camps the corner and prefires to a jump.

14:22 (one of the shots from the xfire video) Reaction to spawn sound in dungeon, so of course he aims his crosshair towards the place where the enemy would most likely go.

15:37 (one of the shots from the xfire video) More of a reflex shot if anything; he sees an enemy, predicts where he will go next and shoots... too bad there's a wall in the way. Razz

16:02 After the enemy appears in the crack, it takes him about half a second to shoot; if he had a wallhack I'd imagine he would have shot a lot sooner.

16:06 You can obviously hear a person in yl. Aim at where they most likely will be: the frozen body.

16:36 He's in dungeon camping and when it appears (without a wall hack) that the enemy has run away, he gives up EVEN THOUGH with a wall hack he would have seen that an enemy was still there.

17:40 What kind of failed wall hack is that? If he was indeed wall hacking, he would have easily been able to shoot the guy and get the point.

18:09 Aims at the melts instead of the enemy in quad. He obviously hears the enemy though, so it shows more that he's predicting where the enemy would be rather than actually knowing.

19:46 Hears an enemy, aims at the crack, almost gives up because he might have thought that the enemy had gone away, but then the enemy jumps and he reacts.

21:38 Hears the enemy, takes a peak, sees him and shoots on reflex.

Have any of you guys ever watched a demo of yourself with shownormals on? If you guys consider this hacking, then I'm never posting any of my demos again and praying to God I never get demoed. Razz

This is why I wont lock it... incase theres more info. I do my best to be fair.

Ill review pix's times tomorrow.... but pix, you also have to look at a difference b/w you and cord. ....

He was caught before using a wall hack... you wernt (that I know of). He also has not played nearly as long as you. You cant compair your demos with his. Its apples and oranges.

http://www.pwpclan.org

130[a]0xyc0done/Cord....... - Page 6 Empty Re: [a]0xyc0done/Cord....... Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:32 pm

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Pix, you claim reflexes... Watch him out in the open, the "reflexes" look like they just stopped working.


And yes, I have, I look a little suspicious but I have NEVER seen myself follow someone through a wall where I had not seen them prior before I did that. The rare occasion that does happen is ex: Q to YH, I'll react and shoot the corner by the stairs on accident.

But, that is a rare event, and he does more obvious things multiple times throughout...

131[a]0xyc0done/Cord....... - Page 6 Empty Re: [a]0xyc0done/Cord....... Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:52 pm

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i watched it twice and i cant call this a "clean" demo, granted some shots could be called "sounds" but there are more obvious I SEE U HIDING THERE, then there are sound related. He waited multiple times for them through the walls even though they tried to jump and get him to fire in the doors, but still he sat and kept crosshair on the models behind the walls.


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132[a]0xyc0done/Cord....... - Page 6 Empty Re: [a]0xyc0done/Cord....... Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:53 pm

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"Pix, you claim reflexes... Watch him out in the open, the "reflexes" look like they just stopped working."

That's more of a case of having the wrong sensitivity and not being prepped for your shot than anything. Watch anyone out in the open; they miss a lot more than in corners.

More times:

12:50 He's not aiming at anything significant... it's 3v3. One enemy is dead in red and the other two are in mega. If one of his teammates was in yl... overlay would have showed it.

13:37 Seems quite normal to me, you know... for being surrounded by two enemies.

14:25 Misses! Epic fail. He was prepped for the shot and still misses.

15:39 The shot was more of a guess shot as it wasn't even relatively close to hitting the enemy.

18:11 Wayyyyy too surprised that his prediction of where the enemy is was off.

18:58 He's camping a crack in mid even though if he had a wall hack he would have known the enemy had run.

I generally find that people who wait in corners are more likely to follow people through walls than people who just run out and shoot.

133[a]0xyc0done/Cord....... - Page 6 Empty Re: [a]0xyc0done/Cord....... Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:15 pm

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Im here fairly often!

last warning stop spammng and shit talking

134[a]0xyc0done/Cord....... - Page 6 Empty Re: [a]0xyc0done/Cord....... Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:18 pm

T@D

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comprichard wrote:last warning stop spammng and shit talking

Last 8 posts havent been. try and keep up old man...

http://www.pwpclan.org

135[a]0xyc0done/Cord....... - Page 6 Empty Re: [a]0xyc0done/Cord....... Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:20 pm

Kamikaze

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lol. :>

136[a]0xyc0done/Cord....... - Page 6 Empty Re: [a]0xyc0done/Cord....... Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:35 pm

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T@D wrote:
comprichard wrote:last warning stop spammng and shit talking

Last 8 posts havent been. try and keep up old man...
they posted while i was reading and typing .you ever heard of xfire?or you can give me a phone number

137[a]0xyc0done/Cord....... - Page 6 Empty Re: [a]0xyc0done/Cord....... Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:04 am

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Smooooth, comp, smoooth. I wouldn't use it on girls, though, but Tad's a bit on the slutty side so it will probably work.

138[a]0xyc0done/Cord....... - Page 6 Empty Re: [a]0xyc0done/Cord....... Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:33 am

Kamikaze

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Lazarus McDeathsinger wrote:Tad's a bit on the slutty side so it will probably work.

xD!!!!!!

139[a]0xyc0done/Cord....... - Page 6 Empty Re: [a]0xyc0done/Cord....... Fri Jan 01, 2010 1:02 am

T@D

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nice porn... nice.

And ill send u my nuber comp... if u promise to call me "carlos spicy wiener".

http://www.pwpclan.org

140[a]0xyc0done/Cord....... - Page 6 Empty Re: [a]0xyc0done/Cord....... Fri Jan 01, 2010 1:23 am

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T@D wrote:nice porn... nice.

And ill send u my nuber comp... if u promise to call me "carlos spicy wiener".

first post of the new year? [a]0xyc0done/Cord....... - Page 6 248741 niiiice. [a]0xyc0done/Cord....... - Page 6 92857

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141[a]0xyc0done/Cord....... - Page 6 Empty Re: [a]0xyc0done/Cord....... Fri Jan 01, 2010 2:01 am

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p1x3L wrote:"Pix, you claim reflexes... Watch him out in the open, the "reflexes" look like they just stopped working."

That's more of a case of having the wrong sensitivity and not being prepped for your shot than anything. Watch anyone out in the open; they miss a lot more than in corners.

More times:

12:50 He's not aiming at anything significant... it's 3v3. One enemy is dead in red and the other two are in mega. If one of his teammates was in yl... overlay would have showed it.

13:37 Seems quite normal to me, you know... for being surrounded by two enemies.

14:25 Misses! Epic fail. He was prepped for the shot and still misses.

15:39 The shot was more of a guess shot as it wasn't even relatively close to hitting the enemy.

18:11 Wayyyyy too surprised that his prediction of where the enemy is was off.

18:58 He's camping a crack in mid even though if he had a wall hack he would have known the enemy had run.

I generally find that people who wait in corners are more likely to follow people through walls than people who just run out and shoot.

you're also an experienced player in o2o. Cord is....cord. He hasn't played for a year, keep that in mind. Someone who doesn't play for a year can't just dominate in 2 weeks when they couldn't even get 3 fpm with autofire, wallhack, and models. Seems a bit rare don'tcha think?

http://www.myspace.com/kaylaandme

142[a]0xyc0done/Cord....... - Page 6 Empty Re: [a]0xyc0done/Cord....... Fri Jan 01, 2010 2:11 am

maX!ma

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well, idc!
newyears is over
fuck quake
move on
lock it!

AGAIN

NO ONE CARES!!!!
love u toolie

http://www.pwpclan.org

143[a]0xyc0done/Cord....... - Page 6 Empty Re: [a]0xyc0done/Cord....... Fri Jan 01, 2010 2:25 am

Kamikaze

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Yeah, Toolz0r actually has a point there, really.

For as long as all of us has played Q3A, not even we could pull off shots and hear anything like that.

It was funny how you didn't hear enemies NEAR you, but yet - you can follow a "sound" PERFECTLY through the wall with your crosshair directly at an enemy model.

If you say we don't know what we're all talking about, saying EVERY LAST ONE OF US are wrong about accusing you a wallhacker.. you see, that's what we all reconize as a cheater.

Being bias to the truth, calling names, like "stupid, idiot, noob" .. it only makes you more suspicious.

You're demos showing off how you follow enemies through the walls are not as bad from any other demos I've seen.

Your explanations are nonsense, how would we ever believe such a poor attitude like that coming from you, xanax/cord/0xyc0done?

Please tell me, have you ever stopped to think about everyone else's respect that you want from them? Have you ever stopped to think about, if you were getting cheated against in your clan, would you like that at all? If you were to go through the same and get totally hacked in a scrim, you'd know just how the rest of us feel.

You would realize that we we never liked cheaters at all, Maverick has allot of work on his hands and money to make over keeping little hacking bitches like you out of his servers and driving the community that he runs, to go away and never play q3a again 'cause of cheaters/hackers, etc.

It's a total disapointment that all of us come by cheaters, watching our friends dropped due to suspected cheating in a server, a damn shame to see.

They've cleared their name over the last year since Noghost-144.pk3 clientside came out for the Q3 1.16n community.

We're doing a deed for Maverick's work, he sits on his ass figuring out the impossible, a great bunch of ideas for the Antibot to keep out any sorce of cheat.

But anyways, kids with an attitude like that, the poor explanations to defend your case is too irrelevant of an excuse.

Try again later kid, you're not welcomed in Q3A.

Go back to playing whatever other game it is and use a cheat there. :>

Thanks for your understanding.

144[a]0xyc0done/Cord....... - Page 6 Empty Re: [a]0xyc0done/Cord....... Fri Jan 01, 2010 2:51 am

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long post kami, but i agree.

145[a]0xyc0done/Cord....... - Page 6 Empty Re: [a]0xyc0done/Cord....... Fri Jan 01, 2010 3:07 am

maX!ma

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:o

kami. your really really smart

http://www.pwpclan.org

146[a]0xyc0done/Cord....... - Page 6 Empty Re: [a]0xyc0done/Cord....... Fri Jan 01, 2010 3:45 am

Kamikaze

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I Just got here!

Him calling us the "noobs" will contradict how he is justifying all of us.

What..? He has not even been around Q3A at all for a simple month or two, and dominates all of a sudden?

That's rather impossible, don't y'all think?

He says WE ALL don't know what the fuck we're talking about on this topic posted of him and the demo Ava7ar recorded of him at their own clan server, scrimming against -No Named- Clan with his wallhack.exe/.dll loaded (I'm sure).

We have all been around this community of Q3A for as long as everyone has hanged together about keeping it all clean servers and clients you're going to be facing, weather they're legitimately skilled, or just a cheating newb that thinks he's "all of that in a bag of chips" as that's quoted. xD

I've explained enough here, my work here is finished.

But yeah, thanx max!ma. :>

147[a]0xyc0done/Cord....... - Page 6 Empty Re: [a]0xyc0done/Cord....... Fri Jan 01, 2010 4:03 am

maX!ma

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Very Happy

GO KAMI!

http://www.pwpclan.org

148[a]0xyc0done/Cord....... - Page 6 Empty Re: [a]0xyc0done/Cord....... Fri Jan 01, 2010 4:07 am

Kamikaze

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I Just got here!

LOL xD

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maX!ma wrote::o

kami. your really really smart
naaaaa
he just wanna be smart
loled ×_@
nice post fagy owned

150[a]0xyc0done/Cord....... - Page 6 Empty Re: [a]0xyc0done/Cord....... Fri Jan 01, 2010 5:02 am

maX!ma

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hey i love my kami!! i can accept who he is.

http://www.pwpclan.org

151[a]0xyc0done/Cord....... - Page 6 Empty Re: [a]0xyc0done/Cord....... Fri Jan 01, 2010 5:13 am

Kamikaze

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Ya, so eat a .l. g33k. :>

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