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Reckoning

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1Reckoning - Page 5 Empty Reckoning Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:01 pm

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First topic message reminder :

JoReL wrote:Well well, It's been a long time since I haven't posted nothing! Cool

But well I was scrimming yesterday and we got noticed about one guy hacking, It was pretty obvious since he didn't try to hide it, so I have been recording him and I found out he was reckoning.

Why is he a wallhacker?

First check the demos and considerer that:

1. His aims most of the time is looking at the floor
2. Unstable aim (crosshair).


I'll post some times from the first demo, I think it isn't even neccesary, but well here we go:


3.48 - 5.45 - 5.54 - 6.03 - 6.07 - 6.35 till 6.52 - 10.09 - 12.03 - 15.36 - 16.41 - 17.50 - 25.07 - 26.00 - 26.54

I won't post times about this second game, It was : its vs n2p.
The demos are pretty obvious but i'm still posting this in suspected cheater section just to follow the protocol stuff LOL


http://www.mediafire.com/file/6wr94st1zz265k2/n2preckoning.rar

http://era.noghost.net/html/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=5733


101Reckoning - Page 5 Empty Re: Reckoning Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:46 pm

Reckoning


Im here fairly often!

It's bad.. sp33d, jorel, etc etc these people that are crying these hacks now.. When I came back this time and joined (was in process of joining n2p) I was fail bad especially the first week, any scrims came along no one was crying hack, 2nd week I got better was getting used to it again, got some I hax from some noobs time to time then I started getting better (like I used to be really) and I still am not even as good as I was. I was alot better a few years ago than I am now.

.its, (jorel), flyy, etc etc -- NO ONE said anything until I started getting better and I PROGRESSIVELY got my skill back you can ask anyone in n2p.. It took time for me to get where I am and still trying to get back to where I was last time I played.

Alot of reasons go into play here and Tad mentioned them especially about the "It matter's what clan you are in" (or something to that effect). I've never befriended you guys (the ones who are calling hax cause they got spanked). Reason being you guys have a piss poor attitude in the game, you think you are all high and mighty and no one should be able to beat you unless they hack. It's pathetic. You get beat you cry hax simple as that.

Also jorel you keep using this oh i've played this long and I should know this and that. I've played LONGER than you, just as long as ALOT of people. And by the way you act and by the way you had covered up that whole WooW story i've played longer than yo u have had hair on your balls if you have any.

There is also a difference in the hackers you had described you had caught, if you see they all had done something or something had been done to them, like (dropped), I haven't, I haven't done anything of the sort period.

You're already gloating and being cocky just like you were last time and it got you know where. That's exactly like all of you "higher" clanned people as you guys seem to act Smile You guys are pathetic and sick. :/

You keep mentioning meva, etc etc but you realize the last time demos were reviewed of me (when I was much better) they had a hand in it? And you realize that out of all the ref/admins it was a bust.

But now, there are less people to play meaing a closer knit between people also so who knows you may have gotten enough people on the bandwagon.

Have fun if anyone wants to ask me anything ill be on xfire Smile

102Reckoning - Page 5 Empty Re: Reckoning Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:54 pm

maX!ma

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reck. Join Quake live. obv q3a is gay for you again. lololol.

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103Reckoning - Page 5 Empty Re: Reckoning Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:25 pm

JoReL

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I Just got here!

Reckoning, you haven't played longer than me.
Second, learn to talk or at least to defend yourself, there are ways to do it without offend to others.

The time and only the time will say the true, but if you feel free lying your clanmates, friends, etc, you are free to do it.

Merky we can talk in xfire, but just to clear up, the one person that covered me was KaLeL and that's because I know him in real life and please Merky, shut up, I'm not atacking you and I have how to do it, but I don't want to do it, lets talk in xfire, pm and please make your review, bye.

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104Reckoning - Page 5 Empty Re: Reckoning Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:19 am

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"My opinion is mine therefore it must be the best as no one else can have a reasonable opinion about anything in direct comparison."

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105Reckoning - Page 5 Empty Re: Reckoning Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:45 am

Merky

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Im here fairly often!

It wasn't just Kalel, your clan leader's helped too. My review is in my notebook, it isn't finished. No point telling me to shut up, I'm clearly stating facts that you forgot to mention when you admitted to being that dead guy. Reckoning - Page 5 913808

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106Reckoning - Page 5 Empty Re: Reckoning Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:21 am

JoReL

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Merky wrote:It wasn't just Kalel, your clan leader's helped too. My review is in my notebook, it isn't finished. No point telling me to shut up, I'm clearly stating facts that you forgot to mention when you admitted to being that dead guy. Reckoning - Page 5 913808
My clan leaders never helped me.
Lets stop this merky, just write your review.

I didn't read the part about why I didn't mention key21, I think meva and rayden were the best people reviewing demos.

The best ref's, obviously key21 is inside there but he was some ways to act weirds and one of thoses that I remember: He asked me and ask to my clean leaders to stop posting demos and info about you, merky, and He would stop posting info against me.

Yep, He didn't want me to accuse you anymore merky. I wonder why Rolling Eyes . I stopped accusing you but not because i think you aren't a hacker, because there are a lot of more people accusing you, you dropped at ql (maybe you will say it wasn't because you were hacking but that's other history), so it isn't neccesary and I got too lazy for post reviews or demos of everybody, I had time time without accuse to someone till reckoning.

Tad , I accuse l1fe before he dropped, I think he used the nick vM h4rsh. I think the topic got delated, but im not sure.

Any reviews about this topic?

107Reckoning - Page 5 Empty Re: Reckoning Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:31 am

T@D

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JoReL wrote:
Merky wrote:It wasn't just Kalel, your clan leader's helped too. My review is in my notebook, it isn't finished. No point telling me to shut up, I'm clearly stating facts that you forgot to mention when you admitted to being that dead guy. Reckoning - Page 5 913808
My clan leaders never helped me.

Jorel is correct. Although his clan mates/leaders believed him they never covered for him knowing the truth. "the panama connection"was the only ones who really knew. As always... I have proof of this Smile When era retired and Jorel went to qOs.... his clan leaders are the ones that actually reposted keys post as well as a 3 page conversation with Jorel on xfire that he continued to tell tehm that he was not an ex-hacker.... and it was obvious that they did not believe him at that time. Granted they changed their opinions once they formed the i clan and Jorel joined.... and after they found out he did in fact lie.... they didn't remove him. But thats not covering for anyone.



Tad , I accuse l1fe before he dropped, I think he used the nick vM h4rsh. I think the topic got delated, but im not sure.

I know you accused life before he dropped... the second time. The drop I posted here and later that pronfish posted in era was while he used the name Clocked.... 3 or 4 months prior to the "life" name. "Life" was "clocked"'s cousin.... according to him. No one really knew who he was and was never suspected prior to his drop in pwp. Also I was the person who "proved" that clocked and life was teh same person.... and eventually had him admit it. So yes you did suspect him.... but that was 5 months or so after his initial drop.

Any reviews about this topic?

I do want to point out that sometimes peoples opinions flip-flop. Thats normal. Jorel, even you said he was clean, then that he was not.... then when hellspawn made that video that zen posted that 90% said was a hack.... you said was clean.

http://www.pwpclan.org/suspected-cheaters-f12/pwpreckoning-t1692-140.htm

JoReL wrote:I reviewed it once more, but this time better and there were weirds shots and also somes skiller shots, in conclusion for me this demo isn't enough proof.
Anyways i asked to my brother for watch it too and he was agree with me.

cya later guys.

Reckoning you need to learn to talk better to the people, you look like a guy without any of education.

naruto wrote:He's clean for me

That was supposedly the "most obvious" demo. I said even then that I thought it was suspicious... never clean. All I am trying to point out is the fact that not everyone is right or thinks the same....



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108Reckoning - Page 5 Empty Re: Reckoning Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:53 am

Sp33d

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I Just got here!

recks a flamer, -1, GG!

109Reckoning - Page 5 Empty Re: Reckoning Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:59 am

T@D

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Sp33d wrote:recks a flamer

That may not be far from the truth Razz

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110Reckoning - Page 5 Empty Re: Reckoning Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:13 pm

T@D

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I was bored so I looked it up Smile

http://era.noghost.net/html/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=4965

Jorel, thats your post about life..... and that was before his 2nd drop. Almost a year before.

http://era.noghost.net/html/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=3809

That's Porns 1st post that "clocked"... which was life, Dropped on the 1st post.

Pornfish's post was a copy of mine from here.... but using the dates there...

His post was Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:54 pm. Your post was Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:28 pm.... almost 6 months after our post of his drop. In reality he shouldn't have been playing in the first place.... but he had people believe that he was clocked "cousin"... which I later proved wrong and he admitted to. If you look in the era ref section you will see my post on that as well which I made a Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:40 am proving that life created a fake SS to cover for ice, who used monkey hook.

Since most can't read can't read the ref section... here is my post...

This is a really long story...I'll try and keep it quick..

http://era.noghost.net/html/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=4830

In this topic, Ice was caught with a monkey SS. Denied, like they always do. Posted a "clean" SS. After fighting about it with life, Ice finally admitted. Oddly enough, life STILL argued. Well come to find out, Life knew about the hack from the beginning...he was tryign to "cover" for his "friend". After talking to class, he said give him a 250 game ban. I actually decided to leave it along and move on. Life still wanted to argue. Yesterday I got more info. Not only did life know about the hacking....HE made the "clean SS". To me thats almost as bad as having it himself. Wolf told me to -1 life. I gave a 5000 game ban, same as sketch did. But withholding info like sketch did, and actually making a fake SS to cover for a hacker seems different to me.

I'll leave the decision to era on what to do.

I jyst see it as if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. In my eyes, faking a SS to publically post to cover for a hacker......to me its cheating the system and the community.


EDIT: Forgot to mention. His IP 70.15.125.31 is the same as cl0cked who was caught hacking. Actually dropped from pwp servers. There is a thread about him as well. Cl0cked argued alot in his thread, as life does in all the threads. Life says cl0cked is his "cousin"....I find it odd 1 left the community, 1 joined around the same date.


EDIT II: *pWp*T@D*: you have been honest to me from the beginning, so if you can answer this please do...
!cE: kk
*pWp*T@D*: is Life ....cl0cked
!cE: lol yeah

*pWp*T@D*: they type the exact same was
*pWp*T@D*: way
*pWp*T@D*: cl0cked "left quake" around the same week "life" was new
!cE: yeah
!cE: its monixide


Even that post was made prior you your post....

Trust me... Life will even tell you I was the one who was busting his balls from the day he dropped months before you posted a demo.... that's why he hated me for so long lol.


Also to add Titan was the one who posted life's 2nd drop in H$ scrims Smile

http://era.noghost.net/html/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=5232

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111Reckoning - Page 5 Empty Re: Reckoning Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:49 pm

maX!ma

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Jorel + woow = jorels time playing quake?

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112Reckoning - Page 5 Empty Re: Reckoning Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:18 pm

T@D

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I assume so... I gather that's why reck believes he has played longer...

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113Reckoning - Page 5 Empty Re: Reckoning Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:27 pm

Merky

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Im here fairly often!

I just re-read the last link, so funny lmfao forgot all about that!

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114Reckoning - Page 5 Empty Re: Reckoning Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:49 pm

T@D

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Ya it was funny Smile

He did that every time he got caught..... but him and I became friends later on and basically... he just liked to stir shit. It was fun to him and I have to admit.... made for some great threads Smile

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115Reckoning - Page 5 Empty Re: Reckoning Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:42 am

Vicious

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I'm here way too much!

this is getting very interesting keep going!

116Reckoning - Page 5 Empty Re: Reckoning Thu Sep 16, 2010 11:35 am

JoReL

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I Just got here!

Plus the time Before wOoW When I used to play lol.

Oh Ok tad, I didn't know h4rsh was clocked o.O

Yes you right, I thought thoses demo weren't enough proof , I think i said it when I was in qOs, but there were another topic after that one...

http://era.noghost.net/html/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=5148&highlight=reckoning

117Reckoning - Page 5 Empty Re: Reckoning Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:36 pm

Clip_

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Vicious wrote:this is getting very interesting keep going!
Ik right? I swear, they could make an online soap opera about 1.16 lol.

118Reckoning - Page 5 Empty Re: Reckoning Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:33 pm

Vicious

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I'm here way too much!

they could

119Reckoning - Page 5 Empty Re: Reckoning Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:18 pm

Killah

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I'm here way too much!

in spanish.

channel 6 soap operas are the shit.

120Reckoning - Page 5 Empty Re: Reckoning Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:39 pm

Vicious

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I'm here way too much!

I might watch them so I can learn Spanish and how to seduce someone (in Spanish!)

121Reckoning - Page 5 Empty Re: Reckoning Sun Sep 19, 2010 1:08 pm

T@D

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I posted this in era to Kami's post. Something to at least consider...

pWpTaD wrote:
Kamikaze wrote:Reckoning has already proven he's a classified cheater. He made it very obvious back in 2008 in *pWp* and still is putting on a good show today to get demoed...

Although I have stated on every occasion that I truly believe the demo's are very suspicious even sense the beginning..... this is a point that seems rather unlikely.

The one thing that can't be debated is the fact that he has never changed his game play. He was suspected when he was in KR.... so its been what... 5 years? So in 5 years, through all the anti-bot updates, NG changes, and various people caught.... he was able to sustain cheating that noghost never caught? I just find that highly unlikely. He goes inactive fairly often but plays a lot when he is active. Typically starting with a noticeable "rust" the first week or 2 then getting back to the same exact game style that creates posts about him.

It just red flags the situation for me that on 5 or so years he was able to hide a hack consistently with out ever having noghost even trigger a level increase or anything. Also, even though he lacks a large "friend" base over all.... not 1 person has ever said "reck asked me for hacks." or "reck brought up hacks". I just can't see anyone being able to consistently hide teh fact that they have "always" hacked.

And before you bring up merky... cause I know some have been frothing at the mouth to do so.... This situation is different in too many ways. Yes they have both been accused for many years and neither have dropped nor triggered noghost... but Merk has been a server admin, has had some "less then trusted" friends in the past. Also he has always enjoyed his name being brought up about hacking and loves to flaunt "arrogance" as often as he can when it comes to the subject....Reck has never been that way. He rarely posts or even visits the sites that make threads about him. Merk has been informed and was up-to-date or noghost anti-bot situations first hand and has asked questions to mav or others just like any other server admin would. I'm not saying he did so that he could make sure his "hacks" still worked... but reck.... unless able to secretly research everything on his own for the past 5 years and never get caught doing so, has not had the same means as Merk or any other server admins, and never triggered....anything.

I know this proves nothing about his demos that I agree are highly suspicious..... but this should be something at least considered. Him hacking a few games is feasible. Him going undetected for 5+ years anti-bot wise is less likely.

Occam's razor - "the simplest explanation is usually the correct one".

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122Reckoning - Page 5 Empty Re: Reckoning Sun Sep 19, 2010 1:13 pm

T@D

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For those who didn't understand the last line....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

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123Reckoning - Page 5 Empty Re: Reckoning Sun Sep 19, 2010 2:23 pm

Merky

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Im here fairly often!

Just to state, Maverick has never informed me of changes to the antibot, and I was never informed about the secret test servers that were in place (that I played on) to catch people when noghost 133(?) was released and then the whole noghost list came out, I just set up the servers to catch people trying to cheat by updating the noghost server files. And about friends, I'm friendly with anybody who isn't an asshole to me.

The rest was correct though. Smile

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124Reckoning - Page 5 Empty Re: Reckoning Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:13 pm

Po!son

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Well being one of the leaders of n2p, I would like to say I agree with T@D's last post. Even though some of his game play is suspicious, he never changes his game play style. He has never dropped, nothing. Always speculation, but nothing ever 100% proven. We have talked to Reck, and asked him if he hacked. He stated no. I would like to think he would tell the truth. I am still going to see about a few other things, but until then, he will be watched, but is still allowed in the clan.

Others can do what they like, based on their "opinions/perceptions" of him. That is their choice. But he is, for now, staying a member of n2p, and will be treated as such.

125Reckoning - Page 5 Empty Re: Reckoning Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:15 pm

T@D

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I was just pointing out that, in general, server admins have more knowledge about things related to NG..... not everyone, but most. I only brought you up since you have been accused for a long time but still your game play never changed.... same as reck.

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126Reckoning - Page 5 Empty Re: Reckoning Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:42 pm

Virtuosity

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Po!son wrote:We have talked to Reck, and asked him if he hacked. He stated no.

LOL.. really if someone is hacking they aren't going to go "Yes, I hack".

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