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Reports say Osama Bin Ladin was killed 1 week ago. It's also reported the US has position of his body.

For the US, it feels like a huge win, and in a way it should.... but....

Don't you think Al Qaeda wants to make a point that he wasn't the only thing that kept their group running? I personally am really happy he is gone.... But I think this is far from over.... and may get worse before it gets better.

nodata wrote:His "admission" could have just been a ploy by the rest of Al Qaida(or however you spell it)

Very true. I assume the meeting went like this...

"Hey, we had nothing to do with this, but lets say Osama did."
"Our leader Osama?"
"Ya, they will never suspect us as a group if we say it was just our leader"
"But won't he say it was us too?"
"Well ya, but thats part of the plan. We will force him to make multiple videos taking credit for 9/11 and that we were part of it which in turn will get the strongest military in the world after him and us. Its brilliant! They will never suspect a thing!!"
"But won't they try and kill us too?"
"Well ya, but we are tricking them onto believing it was Osama who is our leader, when actually we didn't do anything!!!"

Never mind, I don't get what you are saying

Could somebody please explain how a jet can take down an entire building which was made to take multiple airplane crashes and still stand? Or how about the fact that the building fell at the speed it did. Or how about the "lava" type molten metal at the bottom of the building which is higher than jetfuel can even burn at. Or the way the traces were "cut" just like planned explosions are done to take down buildings. Explosions were even seen in multiple rooms in video footage of the buildings "falling". Fuck your government.

Was saying what if there were other leaders higher up than him(or the same level) and they used him as a scapegoat.

Merky wrote:Could somebody please explain how a jet can take down an entire building which was made to take multiple airplane crashes and still stand? Or how about the fact that the building fell at the speed it did. Or how about the "lava" type molten metal at the bottom of the building which is higher than jetfuel can even burn at. Or the way the traces were "cut" just like planned explosions are done to take down buildings. Explosions were even seen in multiple rooms in video footage of the buildings "falling". Fuck your government.

I'm can't. But I could watch "Loose Change" too and tell ya.... but as I'll note below, this wasn't the 1st time Osama had attacked the US or elsewhere. And the WTC towers was also not the only attack that day. As far as your conspiracy theory, you are more then welcome to it...but I have no clue why bringing it up has anything to do with Osama being killed. You are more then welcome to open a topic in Nap's Pants to debate it. I share your disgust with this country on many levels, but being from the UK, you should know that although I don't believe we do as much as you have done for us..... we still have you back on many levels.

nodata wrote:Was saying what if there were other leaders higher up than him(or the same level) and they used him as a scapegoat.

Although that could be true, "most" groups want their victims to know who did things to them. That's why you hear at times "**** has claimed responsibility for the attacks". He was, imo, the leader at the time of the '93 WTC bombings, the Cole attack, and 9/11. It's been known, I guess you could say, he hasn't been an active leader really for many years though..... but he was implicated/admitted to those other 3 attacks on US soil and/or targets as well as many others. Whether he was or is a leader of anything is less relevant as he was indeed responsible for many deaths of people from all around the world.... including his own people.

Let's be honest, who really likes the shitty US government where they hide, lie and screw over the American people.

That they do. But the worst is the fact the the government turned a blind eye the economic collapse world wide, and did nothing to stop it.... then hired those same people who cause it, to the government.

But, lets not tie in the military and soldiers to the government too much. Yes it is a branch, but the military soldiers are not "the government". The government may have gave the OK for this, and was a part.... but the soldiers did the work.

Either way, a terrorist is dead. That can't be debated.

Merky wrote:Could somebody please explain how a jet can take down an entire building which was made to take multiple airplane crashes and still stand? Or how about the fact that the building fell at the speed it did. Or how about the "lava" type molten metal at the bottom of the building which is higher than jetfuel can even burn at. Or the way the traces were "cut" just like planned explosions are done to take down buildings. Explosions were even seen in multiple rooms in video footage of the buildings "falling". Fuck your government.

Conspiracy views are not shared by professionals that understand building designs and structural engineering.

The buildings did stand after the jet crashed into it (as it it did not crash down). However it blew off the fire protection of key steel members. Steel gets noticeably weaker under higher temperatures (look it up =/). The weaker structural fell. Simple as that. This is why we fireproof buildings, and have very specific fire proofing building codes.

The buildings did not fall at free fall speed. Look up something like "debunking freefall 9/11" on youtube.

Lava type material was aluminum, which melts lower than jetfuel's burn temperature.

Cuts in photographs were indeed there, but it was done after the crash, by the rescue workers and by the people that were clearing up the mess.

Explosions in multiple rooms were dusty air blowing out the windows because the top floors are falling on it.

Bs. Also what happened to the supposed airplane that crashed into the pentagon? lmfao OR building 7?

He funded the 9/11 attacks. I do not know how much of the planning he actually took part in.

Merky wrote:Bs. Also what happened to the supposed airplane that crashed into the pentagon? lmfao OR building 7?

May wanna trust spoon. Hes not from the US so has nothing to gain, and is pretty much smarter then everyone in this forum.... combined.

Damn Asians. Stop being so smart spoon.

virtuosity wrote:Damn Asians. Stop being so smart spoon.

Best post you made in a while Joe I agree!

Merky wrote:Bs. Also what happened to the supposed airplane that crashed into the pentagon? lmfao OR building 7?

yes, because the missile that shot the pentagon was designed to leave airplane debris after impact. All designed by american weapon manufacturers aha!

and of course a PLANE is the only possible thing that can bring down a building! Did i say plane? i meant EXPLOSIVES! never mind big chunks of shit that flew into building7 it when the wtc fell.

Also never mind the fact that the fire fighters couldnt fight the fire and so let the building burn. After all, our fire proofing materials are ABSOLUTELY FIREPROOF AND WILL PROTECT THE STRUCTURAL COMPONENTS FOR AN INFINITE AMOUNT OF TIME. (no, actually, fireproofing materials have a "rating", based on how long it will protect whatever its protecting.")

for experiment, try starting a fire in your house, chances are the structural components are all fireproofed, and would have no explosives or planes near it. So it shouldn't fall down as a result right?

Lol virt :p i just happen to major in this

Let's not get crazy....

Merk don't burn you house down. Try a neighbors. I await your results.

But, if he believes what he says, he needs to try it with his house...unless he has doubts

IF I was going to invest a couple million dollars in a massive conspiracy and crash a bunch of planes into gigantic buildings whilst a bunch of explosives really demolish the buildings while the whole world watches, I'm pretty sure I'd make it look convincing and a dude in youtube wouldn't be able to figure it all out.

Not to mention I'd make sure there wasn't a bunch of time between crashes so every single camera lens in Manhattan wasn't pointing at the building while it was happening.

What I'm saying is, if what Merky says was true it's be a shitty conspiracy. OR MAYBE THAT'S WHAT THEY WANTED US TO BELIEVE ALL ALONG?!

Also a quote on Osama's death that has been doing the rounds on twitter:

"It's amazing what the USA can accomplish when the PSN is down."

Lol

Haha

I believe what I believe. There's too much to point to what I believe for me to ignore it. Even the way they seized the video tape that caught what happened to the pentagon and then "lost" it.

maX!ma wrote:

T@D wrote:✓ Saddam Hussein, ✓ Osama Bin Laden, ☐ Roachleader

Roachleader wrote:yeah, kill that bowl-haired queer next.

way to talk about yourself.

bowl haired? me? honestly you couldn't be more wrong. my hair is always all over the place.

Merky wrote:I believe what I believe. There's too much to point to what I believe for me to ignore it. Even the way they seized the video tape that caught what happened to the pentagon and then "lost" it.

To be honest.... the conspiracy theory on 9/11, imo, is typically uninformed people. You can't watch a video and think that a plane, that took off, was recorded, full of people.... just "vanished" and some rocket hit the pentagon.

But I'll say again as I already have..... if you want to debate the 9/11 conspiracy... Im all for it, but it still has nothing to do with this topic.

Since no one seems to want to, Il;l make the topic and spoon can post and merk there.

Question, does anyone else find it strange that Hitler and bin Laden's deaths were confirmed on the same day 66 yrs apart..?

Best C&H ever!

LOL hahaha nice
about hitler and osama
its the Illuminati xD